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GTX 470/480 VS ATI 5850/5870

#1 User is offline   Chris123NT 

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:36 PM

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Wow, all I can say is I'm not impressed, NVIDIA spent ages hyping up fermi and the current line ATI cards still top them in almost every benchmark. Hopefully the price rumors for those GTX4x0's aren't true otherwise NVIDIA won't be selling too many of them.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 08:33 PM

View PostChris123NT, on 10 March 2010 - 08:36 PM, said:

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Wow, all I can say is I'm not impressed, NVIDIA spent ages hyping up fermi and the current line ATI cards still top them in almost every benchmark. Hopefully the price rumors for those GTX4x0's aren't true otherwise NVIDIA won't be selling too many of them.

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first of all they'll be so expensive, that no one can afford them :D also let's see what they really can do when they're offiacly released :) but I'm excited about them and I consider to get one, if...IF they're affortable :)
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Posted 10 March 2010 - 09:09 PM

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I'm happy with my HD 5850 anyway.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 04:42 AM

Damn i have to say with Chris, Fermi is looking to be a dud if this is the performance we can expect from Nvidia's camp. Seriously with all the time they spent they should have had plenty of time to shock us all with something better. The cards are getting hotter, larger and even more ludacris...next thing we'll need to run these are E-ATX Boards because they already take up so much space.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:11 AM

I wonder what they'll officially price these at... Pretty disappointing though, it's clear now that ATI has the upper hand.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:20 AM

I say wait until the reviews/benchmarks come out, then we'll see what happens.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:10 PM

View PostPaul, on 11 March 2010 - 05:11 AM, said:

I wonder what they'll officially price these at... Pretty disappointing though, it's clear now that ATI has the upper hand.

I think they'll be around 600 US$

View PostSevan, on 11 March 2010 - 05:20 AM, said:

I say wait until the reviews/benchmarks come out, then we'll see what happens.


yes, thats exactly what I'm thinking :) I hope they will do any better and may shock us with a surprise or something :D
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:06 PM

They are more focused on Tesselation; The frame rates are much higher when under heavy tesselation than those of the 5870. if you want to use Tesselation, go for the 4xx. If you don't, just go for a 5xxx or a GT200 card.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:17 PM

View PostFloor, on 11 March 2010 - 11:06 PM, said:

They are more focused on Tesselation; The frame rates are much higher when under heavy tesselation than those of the 5870. if you want to use Tesselation, go for the 4xx. If you don't, just go for a 5xxx or a GT200 card.


the gtx 200 series are rare currently in germany/europe but with some luck I could get evga gtx285, maybe even a gtx 295 CO-OP for around 250€ ~ 342 US $
while a friend of mine would give me 50 bucks for my evga 9800gtx + so it's only 200€
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:29 PM

View PostDiamond, on 11 March 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:

the gtx 200 series are rare currently in germany/europe but with some luck I could get evga gtx285, maybe even a gtx 295 CO-OP for around 250€ ~ 342 US $
while a friend of mine would give me 50 bucks for my evga 9800gtx + so it's only 200€


I guess if Fermi ends being too much on the expensive side you could always look into ATI's 5800 Series for DX11 needs, such as an HD 5850 for example. They are excellent cards for the price, which should hopefully drop a bit after Fermi's release.

I highly recommend them. :)
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:38 PM

View PostMitchell, on 11 March 2010 - 11:29 PM, said:

View PostDiamond, on 11 March 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:

the gtx 200 series are rare currently in germany/europe but with some luck I could get evga gtx285, maybe even a gtx 295 CO-OP for around 250€ ~ 342 US $
while a friend of mine would give me 50 bucks for my evga 9800gtx + so it's only 200€


I guess if Fermi ends being too much on the expensive side you could always look into ATI's 5800 Series for DX11 needs, such as an HD 5850 for example. They are excellent cards for the price, which should hopefully drop a bit after Fermi's release.

I highly recommend them. :)


I'm a little Nvidia fanboyish :D and I love EVGA due to their high quality standarts, if they'd only produce ATI cards aswell I'd might even consider to get one :D
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:50 PM

View PostDiamond, on 11 March 2010 - 11:38 PM, said:

I'm a little Nvidia fanboyish :D and I love EVGA due to their high quality standarts, if they'd only produce ATI cards aswell I'd might even consider to get one :D


Haha, I'm actually fan of EVGA's Motherboards, my last one was a 680i SLI and I really liked it. Hopefully I can get myself another EVGA Motherboard in the near future. :)



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Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:15 AM

EVGA stuff is awesome.

But I realized a while back that NVIDIA cards leave a lot to be desired lol
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:24 AM

If EVGA made ATI cards that would be pure win. Posted Image

They're awesome though, great quality and great stuff like their step-up program.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:31 AM

I can't remember if they ever did...but yea it would be nice. They'd be making bank right now if they did jump on board.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 01:49 PM

View PostRyan Price, on 12 March 2010 - 04:31 AM, said:

I can't remember if they ever did...but yea it would be nice. They'd be making bank right now if they did jump on board.



Nah, they have always been a NVIDIA based company from the very beginning sadly, but thanks to Intel's P55 and X58 chipsets their Motherboards can now do SLI and Corssfire. EVGA still market the new Motherboards as SLI though, again because they're a NVIDIA based company.


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Posted 29 March 2010 - 12:47 PM

Got my new game magazine (GameStar) and they tested the GTX 480 in there
Results in one sentence: It is the fastest one-chip card out there, but in comparison to HD5870 it makes more noise and takes more power (the whole system: 415 Watts, with HD5870: 318). But it may be a little bit more future-proof with more tesselation-units and good performance with high anti-aliasing settings.
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 02:59 PM

The HD 5870 isn't that far off the GTX 480 performance wise, it just all depends on what review you read. There has been a lot of junk ones out there too though, including one which claimed the GTX 480 used 475W on full load which is completely wrong. The card uses just over 300 on full load, 307W to be exact.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 10:47 PM

View PostMitchell, on 29 March 2010 - 07:59 AM, said:

<br />The HD 5870 isn't that far off the GTX 480 performance wise, it just all depends on what review you read. There has been a lot of junk ones out there too though, including one which claimed the GTX 480 used 475W on full load which is completely wrong. The card uses just over 300 on full load, 307W to be exact.<br />


I have two in SLI. These cards are beautiful in pairs. I'm at 618w right now in idle, but remember, I'm also running a 300w phase change unit on the system too. on bench test, I'm hitting 974w total. Running at 800/1900 oc on these cards produces 41k and change in 3DMarks. I'm very happy how the picture quality is. Word of advise from my perspective, for the best picture quality SLI is the way to go. I bought one card first because of the lack of stock. I notice the difference tesselation adds to visual e-peening, however I noticed also that there was a minor focus. or fuzziness to the res. When I got the second card installed, the picture was crisp, and clear as if you could step into it. =)
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:12 PM

View PostFireRx, on 26 April 2010 - 10:47 PM, said:

I have two in SLI. These cards are beautiful in pairs. I'm at 618w right now in idle, but remember, I'm also running a 300w phase change unit on the system too. on bench test, I'm hitting 974w total. Running at 800/1900 oc on these cards produces 41k and change in 3DMarks. I'm very happy how the picture quality is. Word of advise from my perspective, for the best picture quality SLI is the way to go. I bought one card first because of the lack of stock. I notice the difference tesselation adds to visual e-peening, however I noticed also that there was a minor focus. or fuzziness to the res. When I got the second card installed, the picture was crisp, and clear as if you could step into it. =)


That's certainly interesting to know, I didn't know SLI had an effect on overall picture quality.

Have you only experienced this with SLI GTX 480's?



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